diff --git a/backend/open_webui/routers/ollama.py b/backend/open_webui/routers/ollama.py
index b3f0e7ec9..d0b86a499 100644
--- a/backend/open_webui/routers/ollama.py
+++ b/backend/open_webui/routers/ollama.py
@@ -1027,14 +1027,17 @@ async def embed(
     log.info(f"generate_ollama_batch_embeddings {form_data}")
 
     if url_idx is None:
-        await get_all_models(request, user=user)
-        models = request.app.state.OLLAMA_MODELS
-
         model = form_data.model
 
         if ":" not in model:
             model = f"{model}:latest"
 
+        # Check if model is already in app state cache to avoid expensive get_all_models() call
+        models = request.app.state.OLLAMA_MODELS
+        if not models or model not in models:
+            await get_all_models(request, user=user)
+            models = request.app.state.OLLAMA_MODELS
+
         if model in models:
             url_idx = random.choice(models[model]["urls"])
         else:
@@ -1112,14 +1115,17 @@ async def embeddings(
     log.info(f"generate_ollama_embeddings {form_data}")
 
     if url_idx is None:
-        await get_all_models(request, user=user)
-        models = request.app.state.OLLAMA_MODELS
-
         model = form_data.model
 
         if ":" not in model:
             model = f"{model}:latest"
 
+        # Check if model is already in app state cache to avoid expensive get_all_models() call
+        models = request.app.state.OLLAMA_MODELS
+        if not models or model not in models:
+            await get_all_models(request, user=user)
+            models = request.app.state.OLLAMA_MODELS
+
         if model in models:
             url_idx = random.choice(models[model]["urls"])
         else:
diff --git a/backend/open_webui/routers/openai.py b/backend/open_webui/routers/openai.py
index d5f3aa88b..5e0a74d61 100644
--- a/backend/open_webui/routers/openai.py
+++ b/backend/open_webui/routers/openai.py
@@ -991,8 +991,13 @@ async def generate_chat_completion(
                 detail="Model not found",
             )
 
-    await get_all_models(request, user=user)
-    model = request.app.state.OPENAI_MODELS.get(model_id)
+    # Check if model is already in app state cache to avoid expensive get_all_models() call
+    # This significantly reduces TTFT when models are already cached
+    model = request.app.state.OPENAI_MODELS.get(model_id) if request.app.state.OPENAI_MODELS else None
+    if not model:
+        await get_all_models(request, user=user)
+        model = request.app.state.OPENAI_MODELS.get(model_id)
+
     if model:
         idx = model["urlIdx"]
     else:
@@ -1148,9 +1153,12 @@ async def embeddings(request: Request, form_data: dict, user):
     # Prepare payload/body
     body = json.dumps(form_data)
     # Find correct backend url/key based on model
-    await get_all_models(request, user=user)
     model_id = form_data.get("model")
+    # Check if model is already in app state cache to avoid expensive get_all_models() call
     models = request.app.state.OPENAI_MODELS
+    if not models or model_id not in models:
+        await get_all_models(request, user=user)
+        models = request.app.state.OPENAI_MODELS
     if model_id in models:
         idx = models[model_id]["urlIdx"]